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6TH ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING 2025

Fairlight History Group

6th Annual General Meeting held, Wednesday 26th February 2025 at 2.30pm at Fairlight Village Hall

Present: The retiring committee:

Haydon Luke – Chairman,

Paul Draper – Secretary and Treasurer

Liz Green – Membership Secretary,

Karen Draper, Julie Marshall, Debbie Jones and Pauline Collins

Plus 29 other members.

Welcome:- Haydon acted as Chairman and welcomed all to the meeting.

Apologies for absence:- Paul announced apologies for absence on behalf of Bill O’Reilly

Approval of Minutes of 5th AGM. Draft Minutes were available for inspection at the meeting. Haydon asked if the meeting approved the Minutes. The Minutes were approved.

Chairman’s report:- Haydon presented the Chairman’s report:

Welcome to the sixth FHG AGM. I am delighted to report that the 2024 year for our group was again highly successful.

As has become my custom, but no less heartfelt for that, I want to begin my review of 2024 with two sets of thanks:

• First to the committee: During the past year, the committee comprised of Paul, Karen, Pauline, Julie, Liz, Debbie and myself. Members of the committee have worked so hard throughout the year not only in committee meetings but constantly in the background doing lots of mundane but important jobs ensuring that our meetings and events ran smoothly. Formally, the committee met monthly to manage the year and prepare for the future.

• Secondly, thanks to you, the members, who have continued to attend meetings, support our activities and share your interest in and enthusiasm for, all aspects of local history. The FHG is only as strong as you enable us to be. Membership has remained strong and we continue to see new faces joining our group.

It is customary at an AGM to look forward as well as back and at this point I want to make a plea. We need new blood. The existing committee has been pretty much unchanged since the FHG began and now Pauline is standing down. We really need to recruit two new committee members to help share the load – and if one of those was someone willing and able to take over as treasurer, that would be even better. We are a congenial group and the monthly committee meetings are always enlivened with plenty of discussion and ideas and well supplied with refreshments. So when the moment comes for nominations, please don’t hold back.

As you will have seen, the new year’s programme is now out and we hope we have devised a programme of talks and events for the year which you will find interesting, rewarding and satisfying. The list has been circulated to you all and is on the website. But please note that we have already had to make two rearrangements from the draft originally circulated, so please make sure you put the most recent version in your diary or planner.

As to future meetings, we are always open to suggestions for talks, visits or activities. If there is something you’d be keen for us to see, do or have a talk on, please tell us what you would like.

Our website continues to be popular. The number of hits it receives is steadily increasing and we continue to respond to all queries received via the website. Particular thanks are due to Karen and to Bill O’Reilly for overseeing this first-class resource. Remember the address – https://fairlighthistory.co.uk/ . We want to keep adding to it with more pictures, stories, reminiscences etc. If you have any contributions you would like to put on the site, please contact Karen.

One function of the group is to promote active research and investigation into all aspects of our local history. That is what led Paul’s and my paths to cross many years ago but although we continue to research all aspects of Fairlight with new material emerging all the time it is not our private preserve. We would like to see other members actively undertaking local research and sharing their findings with the group. And of course we are very willing to offer help and guidance to any other members who would like to do that.

Looking back at 2024 I hope you will agree that we had an interesting and varied programme which included a mixture of talks by our own members and by visiting speakers one of whom brought a fascinating collection of ancient guns and muskets for us to examine. Visitor numbers frequently exceeded 50, peaking at 60 for one talk. We also managed, at last, to go on our visit to the Dymchurch Martello Tower and had a fascinating private lecture/tour. Stimulated by the energies of Steve Green and Bill Pocock two historic folk music sessions were sponsored at the Cove pub resurrecting events from Fairlight’s earlier past and evoking memories of a time when The Hayloft was a vital part of the local music scene. In another joint venture, with the FRA, we also mounted an extensive exhibition in October celebrating Fairlight before Fairlight Cove.

As I have said before one of the aims in wanting to set up a local history group was to respond to the knowledge that bits of the past are slipping away from us and we need to make a determined effort to catch onto those before they are gone forever. We were thinking not only of family memories, personally remembered accounts of things from the past, but also tangible remains – photos, letters, deeds, scrapbooks, farm papers – all sorts of ephemera which provide so much detail about the past. That remains very much part of our mission.

The determination to do something about memories and reminiscences led us 3 years ago to set up our oral history project for which we gained welcome financial support from the Parish Council. So popular have been the publications associated with this venture that they have sold out even including one reprint. I am glad to say that Karen, Paul, Liz and Debbie are continuing the venture and would be glad to initiate additional recruits into the process with the aim of further publication. But I have to confess that our other publication project to publish some booklets covering particular local history topics such as a history of St Andrew’s Church, the wartime years including RAF Fairlight, the Lucas-Shadwell family, Fairlight Place and an account of the development of Fairlight Cove itself has again ‘slipped’.

This was largely due to the pressure of time created by the successful completion of the village War Memorial project of which the FHG is proud to have been a prime mover.

Your committee is also keen to continue to work with other local groups with an interest in exploring and/or preserving local history, for example the Hastings Area Archaeological Research Group (HAARG) and the Archive and Resource Centre (ARC).

After the formal part of the meeting we will be showing by popular demand some early movie film of Fairlight in the immediate post-war period. This is material lodged in the Southeast Screen Archive by the Gowlland family who, between 1947 and 1950 holidayed in Fairlight at Windover. The father’s enthusiasm for amateur cine enables us to look through a very poignant window into the past. Additionally, we met two of the children and were able to copy their photograph albums.

For the FHG and the future our continuing aspiration is that we will promote an interest in all aspects of local history in Fairlight and the surrounding area and in so doing meet the needs and interests you have expressed and that consequently you will want to renew your membership which remains a bargain at £10 p.a. This is unchanged since day one of the FHG. How many organisations can claim that these days!

Finally, as always, if you have ideas or suggestions for future talks or sessions, please let us know. The FHG will strive to fulfil your expectations.

And now it is time to move on through the agenda and so we proceed to the Treasurer’s report. Paul is now acting as Hon. Treasurer in addition to his role as Hon. Secretary, so, as mentioned before, we would welcome a volunteer to take over as Hon. Treasurer.

Treasurer’s report :- Paul presented the report.

We started the year with £2,613.30 and were pleased to finish with £3,691.80. Income was generated by £1,055.00 memberships, £87.00 temporary memberships and a further £172.00 booklet sales. The figures contain a total of £600.00 Parish Council grants, being £200.00 from 2023 and £400.00 from 2024. Haydon has already explained our reasons for not yet utilising these funds. We will press on with the projects during the year. Expenses included £190.00 for speakers, £125.00 in associated donations, £269.00 Village Hall hire, £82.50 for equipment and booklet printing. Total website fees remained at £49.00. The accounts have been audited as at the end of 2024 by Diana Hill who has signed them off as a correct and accurate record. The accounts may be reviewed by any member and are available here at the front of the hall. Diana was thanked. Haydon asked the members if they agreed to accept the accounts as presented. Proposed |Ken Hatch and seconded David Penfold.

Election of Committee members:- Haydon advised the members present that, in accordance with the FHG Constitution, all Committee members must resign and offer themselves for re-election, if they wish to continue. Six Committee members, Haydon, Paul, Karen, Julie, Debbie and Liz offered themselves for re-election, but Pauline did not stand again. Haydon thanked Pauline for her service since 2019. Haydon proposed that the six be put up for re-election together. The members agreed and the six were re-elected. In addition, Cas Barlow had put her name forward for the Committee. This was proposed and agreed by the members. Haydon then asked if any other member present wished to stand for any position on the

Committee at which point Ken Hatch volunteered. Again the members agreed the proposal. The eight names to form the committee for the next twelve months were put to the members. Proposed Mick Jones and seconded Maureen Sinden. Haydon declared the new Committee as duly elected.

Nomination of Auditor:- Diana Hill has agreed to act again as our Auditor. This was agreed by the members.

Any Other Business:- Members were asked for questions under Any Other Business.

Keith Miller asked if an email he had recently received from the FHG website had been generated normally. Karen explained that she had conducted an update of the members and emails on the website and this automatically generated a message

Close of meeting:- There being no further business, Haydon declared the formalities of the 6th AGM closed at 2.50pm.

Following the formalities, Haydon put on a display of material from the Gowlland family. The family visited Fairlight from their home in Croydon, from 1947 to 1950 and beyond. The father was a keen photographer and took cine footage and photographs. Haydon had obtained a copy of the cine footage with permission from Screen Archive Southeast and Paul had copied the family photograph albums. The members were shown a combined presentation of both. Many questions were asked.

There then followed extended conversations with all our members present, over tea and biscuits.

Prepared by Paul Draper, Secretary

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Signed as a true record of the meeting, Haydon Luke, Chairman

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5TH ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING 2024

Fairlight History Group

5th Annual General Meeting held, Wednesday 21st February 2024 at 2.30pm at Fairlight Village Hall

Present:           The retiring committee:

Haydon Luke – Chairman,

Paul Draper – Secretary,

Pauline Collins – Treasurer,

Julie Marshall – Membership Secretary,

Karen Draper, Liz Green and Debbie Jones.

(Liz and Debbie were unable to be present)

Plus 32 other members.

Welcome:- Haydon acted as Chairman and welcomed all to the meeting.

Apologies for absence:- Paul announced apologies for absence on behalf of Liz Green, Debbie Jones, Mick Jones, Peter Firmin, Anne Scott, Pam Chisnall, Carol Ardley, Helen Smith and Annette Humphries, etc

Approval of Minutes of 4th AGM. Draft Minutes were available for inspection at the meeting. Haydon asked if the meeting approved the Minutes. The Minutes were approved.

Chairman’s report:- Haydon presented the Chairman’s report:

Welcome to the 5th FHG AGM. I am delighted that the 2023 year for our group, unlike some previous years, was a ‘normal’ year with no national pandemic to navigate.

I want to begin my review of our 2023 activities with two heartfelt sets of thanks:

First to the committee: Paul, Karen, Pauline, Julie, Liz and Debbie who have worked so hard throughout the year not only in committee meetings but constantly in the background doing lots of mundane but important jobs ensuring that our meetings and events ran smoothly. Formally, the committee met monthly to manage the year and prepare for the future.

Secondly, thanks to you, the members, who have continued to attend meetings, support our activities and share your interest in and enthusiasm for, all aspects of local history. The FHG is only as strong as you enable us to be. 

The new year’s programme is now out and we hope we have devised a programme of talks and events for the year which you will find interesting, rewarding and satisfying. The list has been circulated to you all and is on the website.  We are always open to suggestions for future talks, visits or activities. If there is something you’d be keen for us to see, do or have a talk on, please tell us what you would like.

Concerning our website, particular thanks are due to Karen and to Bill O’Reilly for overseeing this first-class resource. The number of hits it receives is steadily increasing and we continue to respond to all queries received via the website. Remember the address – https://www.fairlighthistory.co.uk/ . We want to keep adding to it with more pictures, stories, reminiscences etc. If you have any contributions you would like to put on the site, please contact Karen.

Additionally, Paul and I continue to research all aspects of Fairlight with new material emerging all the time. And of course, we are very willing to offer help and guidance to any other members who would like to undertake local research.

Looking back at 2023 I hope you will agree that we had an interesting and varied programme which included a mixture of talks by our own members and by visiting speakers in addition to special events like the visit to the Winchelsea Methodist Chapel. We also mounted an extensive August exhibition celebrating 100 years of Fairlight Cove in a joint venture with the FRA. We all felt the exhibition was a great success and will be staging another one in October, again jointly with the FRA. Sadly, the planned visit to the Dymchurch Martello Tower had to be cancelled at a late stage owing to the death of the chief organiser for the Friends of Martello 24. The group has now re-organised and the rescheduled visit is in our programme for this summer. The December event – Ancestral Gifts and Curiosities – at which members showed and talked about items in their possession was particularly interesting. The variety of objects, some very eclectic, was quite remarkable. The relaxed atmosphere made a lovely prelude to Christmas. We are thinking that it should probably become an annual event.

One of the aims in wanting to set up a local history group was to respond to the knowledge that bits of the past are slipping away from us and we need to make a determined effort to catch onto those before they are gone forever.  We were thinking not only of family memories, personally remembered accounts of things from the past, but also tangible remains – photos, letters, deeds, scrapbooks, farm papers – all sorts of ephemera which provide so much detail about the past.

The determination to do something about memories and reminiscences led us to set up our oral history project and we are grateful to the Parish Council which for the last 2 years has supported this aspiration with a special grant. As most of you will be aware we have been able to make really excellent progress with that project. Karen, Paul, Liz and Debbie conducted a further series of interviews and were able to edit Volume 2 just in time for the Village Hall Christmas Fair. This second edition of ‘Memories of Fairlight, Pett and the Local Area by the People who lived here’ is, once again, a fascinating anthology of Fairlight and the local area, as remembered by the women and men who lived it. Once again it has proved popular and sold well, but if you do not have your copy yet there are still a few copies available.

Encouraged by the continuing positive reception of the project we intend to keep going and once again, we will have a new selection of topics. Anyone who would like to join the team will be most welcome. Please let us know of your interest. Training will be given.

Last year I said that we also have ambitions to publish some booklets covering particular local history topics such as a history of St Andrew’s Church, the wartime years including RAF Fairlight, the Lucas-Shadwell family, Fairlight Place and an account of the development of Fairlight Cove itself. Although we have made a substantial start the pressure of time meant that this project has slipped a bit but be assured that the publications will come.

Your committee is also keen to continue to work with other local groups with an interest in exploring and/or preserving local history, for example the Hastings Area Archaeological Research Group (HAARG) and the Archive and Resource Centre (ARC). The latter is now firmly established in a well-equipped room at the Pett Methodist Chapel and is busy getting on with the business of cataloguing and safely keeping hold of those other irreplaceable bits of the past – all those photos, letters, deeds, maps, scrapbooks, farm papers etc, – and making them accessible to anyone interested. It has its own website which you can see at https://www.thearc.uk/

We are also proud that the FHG has had a hand in helping create a bit of history. I refer to the village map which for years has been sited in a glass case at the entrance to the village on Waites Lane. Last year it became clear that it needed replacing and updating and the Parish Council decided to initiate and fund that process. Julie volunteered to design and paint the new map with some input from Paul helping with the necessary updates and corrections. Julie has produced a wonderful new map and this was installed in a splendid new case, and with a hidden time capsule it was duly unveiled on the 24th January in front of a small crowd including the local press. So the FHG doesn’t just record local history, it makes it as well!

We are pleased to be celebrating our 5th anniversary. For the FHG and the future our continuing aspiration is that we will meet the needs and interests you have expressed in our local history here in Fairlight and the surrounding area and that you will be minded to renew your membership. It is a bargain at £10 p.a. As I said earlier, If you have ideas or suggestions for future talks or sessions, please let us know. The FHG will strive to fulfil your expectations.

And now it is time to move on through the agenda and so we proceed to the Treasurer’s report.

Treasurer’s report :- Pauline presented the report.

We started the year with £1,788.17. Income was generated by £825.00 memberships, £129.00 temporary memberships, £625.00 booklet sales, £200.00 Parish Council grant and other miscellaneous including £15.00 for our final mug sales. Expenses included £210.64 on speakers and training, £203.00 Village Hall hire, £481.23 equipment and booklet printing, £49.00 website fees and £50.00 donations. As a result, we finished 2023 with £2,613.30 net, but this still includes the £200.00 Parish Council grant, as yet unutilised. The accounts have been audited as at the end of 2023 by Diana Hill who has signed them off as a correct and accurate record. The accounts remain available to be reviewed. Diana was thanked.

Haydon asked the members if they agreed to accept the accounts as presented. Proposed Mary Stewart and seconded Jenny Turner.

Election of Committee members:- Haydon advised the members present that, in accordance with the FHG Constitution, all Committee members must resign and offer themselves for re-election, if they wish to continue. All seven offered themselves for re-election. Haydon then asked if any other member present wished to stand for any position on the Committee, but no more hands were raised. The members were asked to vote for or against the seven names to form the committee for the next twelve months. Proposed Shirley Gilbert and seconded Cas Barlow. The voting was unanimously in favour of all candidates, so Haydon declared the new Committee as duly elected.

Nomination of Auditor:- Diana Hill has agreed to act again as our Auditor. This was agreed by the members.

Any Other Business:- Members were asked for questions under Any Other Business.

No questions were raised.

Close of meeting:- There being no further business, Haydon declared the formalities of the 5th AGM closed at 2.50pm.

Following the formalities, Paul and Karen put on a PowerPoint presentation showing all the talks, outings, exhibitions, displays and other events that FHG has put on over the last five years. In summary Paul stated that since FHG’s formation at the beginning of 2019, we have held 40 talks in the Village Hall, 2 in Pett Village Hall, 5 Zoom meetings, 3 exhibitions, 7 displays and quizzes at Village hall Fairs and 4 outings. Paul encouraged questions and received many useful comments and suggestions about potential events and some repeat presentations for the future. Additionally, during the talk, Haydon and Karen expanded and updated us on some specific talks and other subjects. The presentation concluded and the overall meeting was closed at 3.35pm.

There then followed extended conversations with all our members present, over tea and biscuits.

Prepared by Paul Draper, Secretary

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Signed as a true record of the meeting, Haydon Luke, Chairman

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4th Annual General Meeting 2023

Fairlight History Group

4th Annual General Meeting held, Wednesday 15th February 2023 at 2.30pm at Fairlight Village Hall

Present:-          The retiring committee:

Haydon Luke – Chairman,

Paul Draper – Secretary,

Pauline Collins – Treasurer,

Julie Marshall – Membership Secretary,

Karen Draper, Liz Green and Debbie Jones

 

Plus 28 other members.

 

Welcome:- Haydon acted as Chairman and welcomed all to the meeting.

Apologies for absence:- Julie announced apologies for absence on behalf of Mike Tuffrey, Terry Oliver, Brian and Maureen Sinden, John and Diana Hill, Peter Firmin, Mary Stewart and Andrew Mier.

Chairman’s report:- Haydon presented the Chairman’s report:

Welcome to the fourth FHG AGM. I am delighted that the 2022 year for our group, unlike 2021, was largely unimpeded by Covid though I know that a number of individual members were affected by the illness at different times.  Clearly the health crisis remains in the background to all our lives and the committee will respond to any new national guidance as required.

I want to begin my review of our 2022 activities with two sets of thanks:

  • First to the committee: Paul, Karen, Pauline, Julie, Liz and Debbie who worked so hard throughout the year not only in committee meetings but constantly in the background ensuring that our meetings and events ran smoothly. Formally, the committee met monthly to manage the year and prepare for the future.
  • Secondly, thanks to you, the members, who have continued to attend meetings, support our activities and share your interest in and enthusiasm for, all aspects of local history. The FHG is only as strong as you enable us to be.

We hope we have devised a programme of talks and events for 2023 which you will find interesting, rewarding and satisfying. The list has been circulated to you all and is on the website.  We are always open to suggestions for future talks, visits or activities. If there is something you’d be keen for us to see, do or have a talk on, please tell us what you would like.

Concerning our website, particular thanks are due to Karen and to Bill O’Reilly for overseeing this first-class resource. The number of hits it receives is steadily increasing and we have responded to a number of queries which have reached us via the website. Remember the address – https://fairlighthistory.co.uk/  . We want to keep adding to it with more pictures, stories, reminiscences etc. If you have any contributions you would like to put on the site, please contact Karen. You will be hearing about some of the enquiries we have received later after the AGM formalities. Additionally, Paul and I continue to research all aspects of Fairlight with new material emerging all the time. After this AGM Paul will be giving you information on some of these new stories.

Looking back at 2022 I hope you will agree that we had an interesting and varied programme which included a mixture of talks by our own members and by visiting speakers in addition to special events like the visit to the New Hall Dymchurch as well as a small exhibition.  I felt that the December event – Ancestral Gifts and Curiosities – at which members showed and talked about items in their possession was particularly interesting. The variety of objects, some very eclectic, was quite remarkable. The relaxed atmosphere made a lovely prelude to Christmas. We are hoping to do something similar this December.

Last year I said that one factor in wanting to set up a local history group was a sense that bits of the past are slipping away from us and we need to make a determined effort to catch onto those before they are gone forever.  I was thinking not only of family memories, personally remembered accounts of things from the past but also tangible remains – photos, letters, deeds, scrapbooks, farm papers – all sorts of ephemera which provide so much detail about the past.

In order to do something about memories and reminiscences we set up our oral history project with the support of a special grant from the Fairlight Parish Council. As most of you will be aware we have been able to make really excellent progress with that project. That we have made such good progress, which culminated in the production of our first publication just before Christmas, huge thanks are owed to Karen, Liz and Debbie with support from Paul, Julie and others.

18 interviews were conducted, recorded and transcribed in our first year. It rapidly became apparent once we got going that there was much material which deserved a wider hearing and the group set about editing the material and organising it into a form in which it could be published. The learning curve was steep (!) but the final result speaks for itself in our booklet, ‘Memories of Fairlight, Pett and the Local Area by the People Who Lived There’. So successful was it indeed that after the initial print run of 75 sold out a rapid reprint of another 35 was needed to satisfy demand for copies of the book.

Encouraged by the positive reception of our first booklet, we have started a second season and the team has conducted a further 8 interviews so far. We plan to produce a second volume of such reminiscences later this year. Anyone who would like to join the team will be most welcome. Please let us know of your interest. Training will be given.

We also have ambitions to publish some booklets covering particular local history topics such as a history of St Andrew’s Church, the wartime years including RAF Fairlight, the Lucas-Shadwell family and an account of the development of Fairlight Cove itself.

You will also recall from my remarks last year that locally we were trying to come up with an arrangement which would provide a way of safely keeping hold of those other irreplaceable bits of the past – all those photos, letters, deeds, scrapbooks, farm papers etc, – and making them accessible to anyone interested.

That led to the setting up of the Archive and Resource Centre (ARC).  This is an initiative which has had the active support of the 3 local parish councils, as well as Rother District Council and the Isabel Blackman Foundation to create a secure location for local historical material, to index it properly, to encourage research and to provide a measure of local access to this material. Its location is a well-equipped room for the ARC’s exclusive use at the Pett Methodist Chapel. It has its own website which you can see at https://www.thearc.uk/

For the FHG and the future our aspiration is that we will continue to meet the needs and interests you have expressed in our local history here in Fairlight and around and that you will be minded to renew your membership. It is a bargain at £10 p.a. If you have ideas or suggestions for future talks or sessions, please let us know. The FHG will strive to fulfil your expectations. And now it is time to move on through the agenda and so we proceed to the Treasurer’s report.

Treasurer’s report:- Pauline, acting Treasurer, presented copies of the FHG final figures as at 31st December 2022. She then read her report: Income – As at 1st January 2022, £1,282.25 was carried forward from the previous year. Since then FHG have received monies for membership fees both annual and temporary, two grants and income from the sale of the new book. The two grants were for £500 from RVA Sparks and £400 from the Parish Council which has enabled the Oral History project to continue. Expenditure – The usual costs have been incurred for hall hire, speakers and the maintenance of the website. Additional running costs included have been the purchase of two recording devices and the printing costs for the new booklet. This has all been covered by the grants received and the sales of the booklet.

Year end – the accounts have closed for the year 2022 and a balance of £1,788.17 is carried forward.

The accounts have been audited as at the end of 2022 by Diana Hill who has signed them off as a correct and accurate record. The accounts remain available to be reviewed.

Diana was thanked.

Election of Committee members:- Haydon advised the members present that, in accordance with the FHG Constitution, all Committee members must resign and offer themselves for re-election, if they wish to continue. All seven offered themselves for re-election. Haydon then asked if any other member present wished to stand for any position on the Committee, but no more hands were raised.

The members were asked to vote for or against the seven names to form the committee for the next twelve months. The voting was unanimously in favour of all candidates, so Haydon declared the new Committee as duly elected.

The members were reminded that the Constitution calls for a minimum of six Committee members. If required, additional members may be co-opted during the year.

Nomination of Auditor:- Diana Hill has agreed to act again as our Auditor. This was agreed by the members.

Any Other Business:- Members were asked for questions under Any Other Business.

No questions were raised.

Close of meeting:- There being no further business, Haydon declared the formalities of the 4th AGM closed at 2.50pm.Following the formalities, four FHG committee members made four short separate presentations under the heading ‘News from our Website and New Fairlight Research’:-

Karen Draper gave a PowerPoint presentation on how to access and use the website and then listed some of the research queries we have received online and how we answered them over the last twelve months.

Haydon Luke then gave a short PowerPoint update to his previous presentation on the transportation of local convicts to Australia and some further discoveries.

Julie Marshall gave an update to her records of artists from the local area. Four were discussed, namely, Adrian Bury, William Sydney Causer, Sir Charles Wheeler and Charles Cundall.

Finally, Paul Draper presented a collection of slides demonstrating some of the new research carried out during the last twelve months. The separate subjects were:-

  1. a) The family of Rev William Batley and the Batley Almhouses, b) The Fairlight Cove Hotel, its early days and musical acts appearing at the Hayloft, c) The New Hall, Dymchurch, their unarchived material, the Expenditor and related material, d) New material used at the FHG exhibit at the Queen’s 70th Jubilee display at Fairfest, e) The Roalfe family of Wakehams Farm and related paperwork and newspaper cuttings found at a family house in Middle Road, Ore, f) The Lucas-Shadwell family and new discussions with their French descendants and
  2. g) The newly available Electoral Registers for Sussex covering the years up to 1963.

A short questions and answers section after which the full meeting was formally closed at 4.00pm. There then followed extended conversations with all our members present, over tea and biscuits.

Prepared by Paul Draper, Secretary

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Signed as a true record of the meeting, Haydon Luke, Chairman

 

Memories of June Carter interviewed in 2021 as part of our oral history project

Name : June Margaret Carter

Maiden name: Luck Baker

DOB 19.05.31

Where were you born: It was called Tin Town as the houses were made of Tin (Broomgrove, Hastings).

Where have you lived:  I lived at Broomgrove until I was 5, then moved to Ore – I was at Ore until I married at 22.  I’ve been living in Guestling since 1953 – 60 odd years.  

Work:  Dewhurst’s the Butchers as Cashier/bookkeeper. They had 9 shops in Hastings in those days – they traded under several different names: British and Argentine Company, Eastman’s, Kingston’s and Dewhurst’s. I worked for them for 8 years after I left school at 14.  I stayed with same firm – working at different shops as a relief.  I was at Bohemia Road shop for six months’ training.  He was a strict Manager, but he taught me well.  Then I went to Kingston’s in London Road, then I went to an Eastbourne shop. After I worked on the land I went to the Beefeater for a job for a change!  In Wartime 1945 I worked from 8.30 am to 6.00 pm, but sometimes we were still there at 11.00 at night doing orders.  No overtime in those days and you didn’t question it – just kept going! 

Coronation Memories (George V1): The Mayor was Councillor Blackman (who owned a coal company), he was a bit of a philanthropist.  All schools had a Christmas tree and every child had a present courtesy of him.  At the Coronation, children were all given a silver bracelet with little coloured stones in the shape of a crown and it is still as it was then – not tarnished (not actual silver). This was a gift from him.  We were also given a propelling pencil with a little glass window on the side of it and when you shook it a little gold coach appeared.  I gave it to my granddaughter.  On viewing the Coronation – I was only 6 at the time.  No TV then, so unless you had a TV or you knew someone with a TV you wouldn’t have seen it!!  

Memories of Winter of 1947 and 1963.  !947 – birds froze to the lines overhead.  No ‘buses running – so I walked from Ore to Bohemia Road – I was doing my training then.  I managed to get there at exactly 8.30 down Mount Pleasant and up through the Park. Very pretty – but awful to see birds dead.  My youngest boy was 3 years old in 1963 and we had winter from the end of Nov. to March – an Arctic Winter.  No central heating – everyone crowded around one fireplace.  We had to breathe on window to see out.  When I got married I put the cot by the chimney breast.  One fireplace in the whole house.  Babies wrapped up and we were too.   

Memories about the storms we have experienced 1987.  I worked on the land – packing apples – there was an almighty crash – a high building. One of the apple bins had been picked up and had come down through the roof.  This was at the bottom of White Hart so the hill saved it from the wind.  

Memories of 2nd World War. I was not evacuated. I didn’t go to school for 18 months – roamed in Pett and Fairlight.  I got to know Fairlight very well.  Went to Fairlight cove down the steps – lots of barbed wire on the beach at that time.  The school children, when it all opened up after the War, were sent (not asked – just told!) to all the fields towards Fairlight Church where we had to go gleaning which meant picking up all the seeds from the threshers.  We had little nimble fingers which were just right for gleaning! We had to collect sheeps’ wool on hedgerows and would tease and spin it – then used beetroot skins and carrot peelings to dye the wool – wash it into skeins to make sure lanolin had come out.  This was all part of school training.  Ore Village school was a house attached to the school – we would go there and be taught how to clean lampshades and dusting on tops of doors!  Also how to clean the grate, bathrooms and bedrooms and the kitchen. 3 girls a week would cook dinner for the teachers and you would go to the shops to buy provisions to do so – what you would need.  We also went to Mount Pleasant laundry to learn how to wash and boil clothes, starch clothes, pillowcases everything was starched! This was all part of our education. I learnt to cook meat puddings and pies, stews – wholesome food.  After I got married I was glad I had the training.  Even now I observe the rules the teacher told me.  Scripture was taught – Headmistress explained in everyday language.  Maths, History, Geography, PE, games, Art, Music. Greek Mythology and Shakespeare -all the Classics were taught.  Glad I was taught these things – this was all in Senior education.  My sister in law was a sports’ fanatic.  We went to the Pilot Field every year – all schools competed there – long jump, high jump, relay and hurdles.  I won the long jump and was 3rd in the 50 yards.  Football was played there as well.  Money was tight and I couldn’t stay on for further education.  I earned a pound a week out of which I gave mum 10 shillings.  Mum didn’t buy our clothes when we started work.  We managed our own money and didn’t expect a lot.  Potato and hop picking was done for extra money.  

There were not many houses in Fairlight in those days.  All gorse and grass. The Lover’s Seat has disappeared and the land is different now.   

 

 

 

 

Memories of Alison Pont interviewed in 2021 as part of our oral history project

Interviewee: Alison Renee Pont                                        DOB: 2.10.1933

Maiden Name: Moore                                                         Place of birth: Eastbourne, East Sussex

Family moved to Hastings before Alison was 5. Lived in Parker Road.

Went to Mount Pleasant School, then Hollington Juniors and Tower Road Senior School.

Camped in Ecclesbourne Glen around 1935.

During a slump in work in Hastings, the family moved to Ashford, Kent.

During the war, she was evacuated to Eastbourne to stay with her Grandma but went back to Hastings when Grandma died of leukaemia.

Watched all the V2 rockets and doodlebugs going over. Had an Anderson shelter in the garden at her Grandma’s but had a Morrison shelter at her home in Hastings.

Her dad was a carpenter and had a DIY wood shop in Ore. The first houses that were built in Fairlight Cove didn’t have cupboards so Alison’s dad came down and advised on what wood to use etc.

He was a founder of Fairlight Bowls Club although he still lived in Hastings. Alison and her mother used to help raise funds for the Bowls Club by helping at Jumble sales in the Village Hall.

Alison left school at 14 and became a hairdresser in Hastings. She did three years training and then two fully qualified. She then started working from home and did that for 40 years.

In 1954 Alison married Robert Edgar Pont. He was from Hastings and they met over a love of sport. He was a keen footballer.

They had Wendy in 1955 and her brother four years later. Alison had bad arthritis in her hips so decided not to have any more children. However when she went to work in a Children’s home, she met and fostered two girls (sisters??) who became and still are part of their family. The girls’ grandmother asked Alison and her husband not to let them call them Mum and Dad but instead Auntie and Uncle as that means more. They carried this on all their lives but now it tends to be Nanny! One of the girls has seven children! Lots of grandchildren and great grandchildren. 

In 2005 Robert died and Wendy asked Alison to move in with her family in Fairlight but Alison wanted to give it five years to see how she managed. She was already a member of Fairlight Floral Club.

In 2010 Alison moved in with Wendy. Ken, Wendy’s husband, was born in Scotland but grew up in Fairlight. His family house was called Sealands.

Memories of Dave Watson interviewed in 2023 as part of our oral history project

Dave and Sally came to Fairlight  44 years ago.  When they first came here they had a shared telephone line and it was very good serve as the telephone exchange was sited at the end of Waites Lane!  

 

He remembers lying in bed one night in the early days and their house shook!! This was when a massive cliff fall took most of Sea Road!! – and there was talk of maybe having to build a road from Briar Close across the field to Pett Level Road!  

 

Storms:  Dave remembers the storm of 1987.  He slept through the night, but the next day no-one was getting out of Fairlight Cove.  Maid-stone lost half its roof, but Dave’s only lost two tiles!  He was involved with the clearance work – chain-saw work.  He also remembered three/four separate occasions when Fairlight was cut off due to snowfall.  He remembers going out with snow chains and getting as far as the Church at top of Battery Hill and being met with a wall of snow!  

 

Dave worked as a lift engineer and in the winter of 1963 as it was so cold in lift shafts – working with metal and draughty areas, he used to go to public baths where he and his workmates would have an actual bath with Radox ( not many people had bathrooms at home in those days). But he said there didn’t seem too much of a problem getting around as the councils kept road clear in those days much more than today!  

 

Scotty who was the man who attempted the first sea defence at Fairlight used scaffolding poles plunged into the beach onto which he piled rubber car tyres, but after the first big storm hit them – the tyres disappeared!!  He also bought a barge which he sailed from Pett Level on which was a welder; he also drive an old bulldozer from Pett Level to Cliff End, put the bulldozer on the barge and floated it along to Fairlight.  After another big storm the barge sank!!  The bulldozer is still there in the undergrowth!    He also built a scaffold frame and pushed it over the top around the Rockmead Road area so that this could be worked from, but it bent in half!!!  Fred Cook raised the first amount of money for the Berms.  

 Mr. Colin Gotts was born in Primrose Hill and he told Dave there used to be a tea place for walkers up at John’s Seat.

People in Lower Waites Lane area would regularly walk over to Griffins Farm shop down across a bridge over the stream and up field towards Wakehams Farm. In the early days there were no trees around the area and the Egg Man and Colin Gotta would walk to school and walk up the LWL stream.  There were potatoes growing in the fields near John’s Seat in those days and the Mermaid Inn at Rye used to grow veg in Jenny Annetts field when Dave and Sally first came to Fairlight.

 In Clinton Way there was a long wooden house split in half that used to accommodate Canadian soldiers in the War-time.